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My housemate is having a nightmare with a new pc he's putting together. Ordered all the components from Scan about 2 weeks ago.

We built it, booted up fine, then consistently had issues with it blue screening whilst installing an OS. Returned all the bits, Scan tested and decided the motherboard was faulty. He got it all back today. We've put it together and now it wont even start up. There is power to the board as the LED on the board lights up. When you press the power button, all the fans spin once or twice and then all stop. Nothing happens. They wont do that again until you remove the power lead and plug it back in again. Power on, fans spin, then nothing.

What should we check, before he goes mental at Scan again tomorrow, who to my surprise appear to be making life very difficult for him. Is it likely to be yet another motherboard fault? Have checked the gfx card and mem are seated properly, but havent done the cpu yet, but they dont tend to not seat properly do they.

I cant remember the exact spec now, think its athlon 64 3500+, MSI board, geforce 7600GT, 2gb DDR667 (i think). Any help much appreciated on this one.



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ive had that - its probably one of two things...

1. The PSU is not powerful enough <--- Very likely, esp at that spec

2. You have plugged the case cables into the mobo incorrectly. <--- Less likely



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1) remove every thing and then power up the mobo with cpu installed and see if you get bleeps due to memory
   missing no bleeps mobo, cpu or psu fault

2) add memory and reboot bleeps stop chances are mobo + cpu + memory ok

3) next add video card and retest if the video card is overloading the psu try lower spec known working card
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D - the exact same spec booted up before, only a 350W PSU however as it worked before I don't think it was that. Double double checked the case cables and they were ok.

Gama - tried booting it up with just cpu and adding other bits - made no difference.

Anyway, being the lazy git i am nowadays, by the time I'd got up (bout 20mins ago), he'd already spoke to scan and they are collecting it all again today. They are going to build it themselves and see what happens, then hopefully get it working, and return a built, working machine to him by Tuesday. We'll see....



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right first thing check the bios flash jumper (normally jumper 12), it this is on then it can do this.

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doh its all just gone back to scan. that could be annoying if its just that.

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Always check the bios flash jumper, leaving it close can be lots of trouble

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I agree with D, its probably the PSU. What spec is the PSU? A good way to test that would be to pull out as many components, like any extra HDD, cd roms etc out and try it like that. I have more or less the same spec pc and was having no end of problems with a 350W psu. I upgraded to a cheap 650W psu and was still having problems (if all HDD's were running at the same time and the gfx card needed some juice, it would crash the pc).

Another thing to check is to see if you are running your ram in the dual channel thing, apparently that just dont work with athlon Mobo's

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i run my RAM Dual Channel no probs... if it didnt work on Athlons they wouldnt put it on the board mofo... sorry, mojo!

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re. psu - appreciated its quite low, but it did boot up fine originally, and now nothing. the spec hasnt changed one bit. the psu came with the arctic cooling silentium case. a very nice case but seems stupid it only comes with 350W, i would have thought 450W would be a much better idea. i like the case though, i might use it for my next build.

anyway its all back at scan so will see what they say on monday.



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ive had a system do a simillar thign with a faulty proccesor though
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blue screening these days is usally down to faulty ram..
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Demonboy wrote:
i run my RAM Dual Channel no probs... if it didnt work on Athlons they wouldnt put it on the board mofo... sorry, mojo!


Sorry, I meant for the people who have upgraded to 64 bit processors...

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350W is no way near enough, you would probably knacker your gfx card with that. as for booting up, well thats sort of expected as the gfx drivers etc wont kick in until windows is loaded.

When i first had my psu problems, i had to unplug the psu, plug it in again holding down the power button just to get the damn thing started. I had almost exactly the same problems as you, and I was running it all on a 350W psu.

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The First error they had was solved it was a faulty mobo but the new prolem is its not even starting just fans moving so cant be power
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Yes exactly thanks phil.

scan said it sounded like another faulty board, anyway i shall let you know when they get in touch on monday or tuesday.



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if only the fans start up its not clearing post.. u need to find out why
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As i said i would put money on it being Proccesor or Mobo because thats like the first thing it trys to start and when it cant it turns off or summit
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