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In future will all |SFH| members please refrain from playing on the [SFH] DoD clan's server at 195.20.108.42:27025.

For your info if you wanna know why.

Session Start: Tue Aug 05 22:15:51 2003
Session Ident: [SFH]Shep
[22:15] Session Ident: [SFH]Shep (Shep@host81-128-242-25.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
[22:15] <[SFH]Shep> im here
[22:16] <[SFH]Shep> as requested / summonsed
[22:23] <[SFH]Shep> ahh well another time perhaps
[22:25] <DemonServer> im here
[22:25] <DemonServer> hi
[22:25] <[SFH]Shep> lo
[22:25] <DemonServer> whos been misbehavin on ur server?
[22:25] <[SFH]Shep> i dunno their names
[22:25] <DemonServer> what did they do?
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> and its nowt serious
[22:26] <DemonServer> what was it?
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> just a bit of shootin into spawn
[22:26] <DemonServer> ?
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> and a few comments
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> last night
[22:26] <DemonServer> shootin into spawn?
[22:26] <DemonServer> and what kinda comments?
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> there were loads of u on so i dunno who?
[22:26] <DemonServer> what do u mean shootin into spawn?
[22:26] <DemonServer> and what kinda comments?
[22:26] <[SFH]Shep> exactly that
[22:27] <DemonServer> i dont understand?
[22:27] <DemonServer> shooting into spawn?
[22:27] <DemonServer> enbemys spawn?
[22:27] <[SFH]Shep> u play dod yes?
[22:27] <DemonServer> enemys spawn?
[22:27] <[SFH]Shep> yes
[22:27] <DemonServer> not much
[22:27] <DemonServer> and thats bad?
[22:27] <[SFH]Shep> its a big no no
[22:27] <[SFH]Shep> it is mate yes
[22:27] <DemonServer> its happened 2 me loads of times on ur server?
[22:27] <DemonServer> ive never done it myself
[22:27] <DemonServer> but i didnt know it was bad
[22:27] <[SFH]Shep> not by any tags
[22:28] <[SFH]Shep> [SFH] / [OAP] / [IRF]
[22:28] <DemonServer> well none of my guys play dod regularly
[22:28] <DemonServer> so if they did do that
[22:28] <DemonServer> then they obv didnt realise
[22:28] <DemonServer> as for the comments
[22:28] <[SFH]Shep> can u let em know then
[22:28] <DemonServer> what kniida comments?
[22:28] <DemonServer> i will do
[22:28] <[SFH]Shep> nothin serious
[22:28] <[SFH]Shep> i cant recall what
[22:28] <DemonServer> its not like my guys to b like that
[22:28] <[SFH]Shep> just read a bit sh*tty tbh
[22:29] <DemonServer> if ne1 said nethin it was most likely a joke
[22:29] <[SFH]Shep> im sure it was
[22:29] <DemonServer> k
[22:29] <DemonServer> well ill post on our forums about the spawn killin thing
[22:29] <[SFH]Shep> but thats why i said u look like [SFH] so behave
[22:29] <DemonServer> but like i say my guys would never say nething malicious
[22:29] <DemonServer> ill just tell em not to play on ur server if its that serious man
[22:30] <[SFH]Shep> ok cool
[22:30] <DemonServer> its not like were copyin ur names
[22:30] <[SFH]Shep> what ever
[22:30] <DemonServer> lol
[22:30] <DemonServer> fair enuf
[22:30] <DemonServer> bye
Session Close: Tue Aug 05 22:30:20 2003

Session Start: Tue Aug 05 22:30:43 2003
Session Ident: [SFH]Shep
[22:30] Session Ident: [SFH]Shep (Shep@host81-128-242-25.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
[22:30] <[SFH]Shep> see how serious it is when u play a league match
[22:31] <DemonServer> ?
[22:31] <DemonServer> how serious what is?
[22:31] <[SFH]Shep> shootin into spawn a
[22:31] <DemonServer> well like i said
[22:31] <DemonServer> noone knows about it
[22:31] <DemonServer> cos were all dod nubs
[22:31] <DemonServer> ok?
[22:31] <[SFH]Shep> like i said....... thats why i told ya
[22:32] <[SFH]Shep> ok?
[22:32] <DemonServer> ill go and get my player off ur server now then
[22:32] <DemonServer> in case he does summat to embarrass ur clan
[22:32] <[SFH]Shep> lmao
[22:32] <[SFH]Shep> read the 1st line of our convo
[22:33] <[SFH]Shep> <[SFH]Shep> and its nowt serious
[22:33] <[SFH]Shep> <[SFH]Shep> just a bit of shootin into spawn
[22:33] <DemonServer> yeah and now ur makin out like my clan are a bunch of kids
[22:33] <DemonServer> "behave"
[22:33] <[SFH]Shep> no.....
[22:34] <[SFH]Shep> im saying behave cos u could be mistaken to be the real [SFH]
[22:34] <DemonServer> its the tone m8
[22:34] <[SFH]Shep> well....let me put it simply for you
[22:35] <DemonServer> i understand what ur sayin m8
[22:35] <DemonServer> it wont happen again
[22:35] <DemonServer> well just go elsewhere
Session Close: Tue Aug 05 22:35:46 2003

Session Start: Tue Aug 05 22:36:18 2003
Session Ident: [SFH]Shep
[22:36] Session Ident: [SFH]Shep (Shep@host81-128-242-25.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
[22:36] <[SFH]Shep> we have worked very hard for 18 months to become respected in dod and when u see a group of players come onto your server with SFH as a tag and they mess about (for whatever reason) it can be kind of annoying ...
[22:37] <DemonServer> well my players dont mess about
[22:37] <DemonServer> and  sent from hell is just as old and respected as ur clan
[22:37] <DemonServer> so i dont appreciate the attitude
[22:37] <DemonServer> neway
[22:37] <DemonServer> drop the subject
[22:37] <DemonServer> its finished
[22:37] <DemonServer> we wont b back
[22:38] <DemonServer> goodbye
Session Close: Tue Aug 05 22:38:09 2003



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Posted: 05 August 2003 at 11:02pm | IP Logged  

OMG!... opinions on a postcard to...

Session Start: Tue Aug 05 22:47:56 2003
Session Ident: [SFH]Shep
[22:47] Session Ident: [SFH]Shep (Shep@host81-128-242-25.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
[22:47] <[SFH]Shep> u aint seen attitude yet
[23:01] <DemonServer> oh jesus christ cant u just drop the subject
[23:01] <DemonServer> we arent comin back to your server
[23:01] <DemonServer> so just leave it alone!
Session Close: Tue Aug 05 23:01:30 2003

/me adds shep to ignore list... what a childish twat tbh...



Edited by Demonboy on 05 August 2003 at 11:03pm


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lol..what a twat..but if someone does anyway go there they can do it without tag mkaay??

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wot a naughty boy he is, im deeply upset

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tbh just avoiud that server altogether. Apart from nethin it lags like a bi-atch when theres more than about 12 people on it neway... theres loads of others out there, inc that one you me and mojo had a larf on last night...

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*cough* ma dod clan one is 195.20.108.66:27025 -[AP]- Clan + Kustom Maps tis a gd server wit gd reg but get's full of european hackin cnut0r's (mostly spanish or german) so we've put CD onto optional.... for now
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what does their SFH stand for anyway? stupid fick heads ? soz i shouldn't insult but even i would have normally got the hints by that point.
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Scotlands Finest Highlander's mostly because a majority of the members live in Scotland
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What a bunch of w**kers. I dont like their tone. Just never go back.
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*nods*

its just that guy who was a twat tho tbh... their CLs r good lads... i got an email from one of em 2day in rpely to the email i sent them and ill post it here now...

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My thought on shep/demonboy saga - what say you m8?

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lo mate,

well, well, this is a big of a mess eh?

Ok, Ill say this 1st, Shep has been a member of [SFH] right from the start,
and I have never found him to be anything other than a good, honest bloke.
And Ill say this 2nd, every conversation, especially a written one, can, i
guess, be misunderstood. From both sides...
Now I wasnt on the server, to witness what Shep saw, but if he says it
happened, as far as i am concerned, it happened, and its not something we
take kindly to. As Shep said, its a big no-no in DoD, and gets your
server/clan a bad name.
But I also accept that not everyone, maybe familiar with these "rules", and
that for everyone, there is a starting point from which to gain this
information. This is where your clan come in, new to DoD and therefore
oblivious to the rights and wrongs....possibly the same most of our members
would be in a CS server.
What Im saying is you obviosuly accept Sheps point of view that your members
on the server could be mis-identified as our {SFH] members, and thus our
clan and server would be giving out the wrong impression to any other clans
or plyaers who happened to be on the server at the time. Accept this, then
accept his comments as they were intended. You guys are welcome to play, but
drop (or modify) your tag so that there can be no confusion between the
clans, or educate your members in DoD "etiquette", or preferably, both.
I would also say that from reading your conversation, Shep also accepts your
comments that your clan are new to DoD and that their actions are not meant
to annoy on purpose, but rather they just didnt know any better, but again,
thats not their fault, evryone was new to DoD at one point.

Arrghhh, this is dragging out a bit, and i didnt want it to, it was meant to
be simple and to the point, so to summarise....

Both of you seem to accept each others point of view, so the only thing left
to address is the "tone" of the conversation. Can i say that my opinion is
that all this was was a misinterpretation (on both sides) of what was
written, and thats all it should be thought of as, a simple
misunderstanding, best forgotten about.

We/I dont want to fall out with anyone, life is too short etc.

Best regards and i hope to see you on the server :)

Diaper


>From: "|SFH| Demonboy |CL|" <demonboy@sentfromhell.co.uk>
>To: <,diapergodfather@hotmail.com>,<sfhbairn@msn.com>
>Subject: |SFH| Sent From Hell
>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:21:58 +0100
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>Normally I wouldnt allow myself to get wound up by this kind of thing but
>this Shep guy has quite seriously pissed me off and so i thought id just
>send you a link to the forum post ive left on our public forums.
>
>First of all shep announced in your server that my players had been
>misbehaving on your server so straight away i asked him what had happened
>(as understandably i was going to sort my players out had they done so).
>After a number of similar requests i eventually got a reply saying he was
>busy playing and he would speak to me in irc when he was finished.
>Following
>that he eventually turned up in irc and you can read our most enjoyable
>little tet-a-tet which then ensued at the following address:
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>http://www.sentfromhell.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=541&PN=1&TPN=1
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>As I stated in my conversation to him I have now requested that none of my
>players use the sfh server so as not to cause any confusion. The only
>reason
>i am even writing to you is simply because i did not appreciate the
>attitude
>of your WA and felt you should be informed. Maybe he should get his facts
>straight and learn to be a little more polite in future. His photo on your
>site does not make him out to be of a young age but his attitude certainly
>does.
>
>Its a shame its come to this especially as you guys seemed very decent
>after
>we chatted about that merger idea and thats why i started playing on your
>server in the first place and encouraged my players to do so too.
>
>Regards
>
>Alex Galbraith ( |SFH| Demonboy |CL| )
>
>
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ask meh about dod etiquette I been playin it for over 1yr and a half so i kno what its like to not kno the dod "etiquette" would b happy to answer any of ur quezzie's about dod or any of its clans

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give us some examples then m8...



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well "spawn campin" is a real big no no.. its where u wait inside the "spawn area" where the nme spawns from.. this is considered totally unfair and can get u kicked/banned from servers.
a variation of this is where u wait outside of the spawn ramp some ppl dont consider it to b spawn campin as such but it kinda gives the effect (stopping the nme from gettin out of spawn) it makes the game boring and the server will drop in numbers if it goes on for long...
You won't usually find the more exp players doing this as we didnt do it in 3.1 and we aint gonna start now.
Another thing is grenade "bugging" this is where u throw a grenade at a certain point of the map and it, when exploded kills ppl when they r a fair way aweh from the actual "impact zone" (this has i believe been sorted for 1.0 tho but used to b a major thing in 3.1) just a couple of things. Btw a gd example of what i consider to b spawn camping is on a map called dod_kraftstoff the allies if they can push the germans back will spawn camp or camp the exits so the germans can't accomplish the obj. this u will see on all servers on that map so watch out for it.
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ok first of all i see nothing wrong with Sheps behaviour , it isnt him thats started the childish name calling and so on . I see we have a rubbish server and so on , well thats fine we wont be seeing you guys on it again .  I have to laugh when people come on forums and all they can think of is what a bunch of w**kers or t**sers etc . Century must have really stayed up all night to get the stupid fick heads one. The bottom line is the server you were playing on is ours and if we dont like the behaviour of certain individuals then we will deal with it accordingly. Youll probably delete this post or call me more names from the obvious intellectuals you have gathered in here. This will be my last post or e-mail on this subject . I have no intention of talking about this with anyone as i dont feel the need . I have no doubt whatsoever we are not welcome here and i make it clear that the feeling is the same at this end.

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well id just like to pt out that at no pt in this entire thing have i called anyone any names and in fact it was shep who caused all the crap. Anyway...

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/me adds shep to ignore list... what a childish twat tbh... HMMMM isnt that name calling ? and its on your forum under your 2nd post posted under your name or am i seeing things.

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he added him to ignore due to the fact he kept bringin the matter up and wouldnt let it go. It seems that you guyz are sticking with Shep and we are stickin wid demon so just leave it and carry on with your dod'in
Bye, nice knowin u!

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You think thats not childish? :

[22:47] <[SFH]Shep> u aint seen attitude yet
[23:01] <DemonServer> oh jesus christ cant u just drop the subject
[23:01] <DemonServer> we arent comin back to your server
[23:01] <DemonServer> so just leave it alone!

u aint seen attitude yet? yes hes is quite blatently a childish twat - all the way through that conv i kept sayin im leavin bye, cya leave me alone and all he did was hound me more. Maybe i will just say this one last "childish" thing myself:

WE AINT COMIN BACK SO WHY DONT YOU JUST f**k OFF AND LEAVE US ALONE! jees... take a friggin hint...



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Oh, btw b4 i forget about this entire sordid incident i thought id tell you a little anicdote about [SFH] that well respected clan.

Are you sitting comfortably? Then ill begin...

After the whole "dont play on the [SFH] server" incident, myself mojo and grizler went to play on a pubby BY DoD server. As we arrived on the server (with normal |SFH| tags on) a blueyonder admin instantly warned me that if i misbehaved then id get banned. I protested and asked why? We had never even played on the BY servers before... he informed me that the BY admins knew all about my clan and that if i misbehaved i would get some bannage. Again i protested and i said what do you mean us? He said you're SFH arent you? I replied yes, but were not the DoD clan [SFH] but the CS clan |SFH| Sent From Hell, do you mean us? At this he replied "Oops Sorry, forget everything i just said then...".

In future could you guys please not wear SFH tags in public servers as we dont want our good reputation to be stained. Many thanx. Demon.



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