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Sirwomble Site Admin

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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 9:06am | IP Logged
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Demon was going to start this poll but i thought id jump in and get the ball rolling.
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ninjaofwarfare Imba Community Member


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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 11:05am | IP Logged
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lol pld
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StalkeR Senior Community Member


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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 5:58pm | IP Logged
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would b good if it was compulsory but i have seen servers "die" because it was required... prolly wont happen to urs cus ur's is well known but i seen it happen ah well ya always got meh to go on it
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Sirwomble Site Admin

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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 6:18pm | IP Logged
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i c what your saying m8 but just look at how many people weve had in the server recently itll amaze you and a lot when asked play with it allready so i dont think we will notice a gr8 loss in numbers and also if we did theres nothing stopping us putting it back to optional.
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 7:16pm | IP Logged
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PLEASE READ THIS:
IMHO we should stick with optional. Im worried well lose all the new people playing on the server and as stalker says the server will die... if you have to go and load up C-D and theres no1 on the server whos your m8 and hence you wanna play with them then even if you dont hax you'll just go elsewhere, i know i would.
Not only that but C-D is updated so often that we will lose loads of players from the 56k section cos they wont wanna DL C-D every day just to play on our server, theyll go elsewhere.
Our server is getting more popular these days and I like to think its cos we have good admins and a good laugh. If we go overboard on the anti-cheat then people just wont play here. A better idea would be to get WWCL or such like, which doesnt require a download by the user.
We've worked hard to gain the user base we have now - lets not lose them all just because were afraid of a few hax0rs spoiling the fun.

One last point, if this poll is succesful, it will be taken as a 1 week TRIAL ONLY to start off with, if we find that connections to the server drop significantly over that time then im afraid C-D Req will be removed and it will be set back to optional.

Edited by Demonboy on 22 June 2003 at 3:30am
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StalkeR Senior Community Member


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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 9:11pm | IP Logged
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WWCL would stop the interp whores but can cause problems i.e the checker thinks the client its scanning has an alias in their config to stop the checker when they actually havent i dont mean to put u off anti cheat by any means im just sayin what i have seen and experienced in the past.
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ninjaofwarfare Imba Community Member


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Posted: 21 June 2003 at 10:07pm | IP Logged
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i think it shud stay optional cuz otherwise who else can we kick from the server? and wwcl sucks for peeps on 56k due to it takin atleast 3 rounds for the lag 2 clear, trust me
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 3:30am | IP Logged
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Please re-read the edited version of my post...
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MrFist Clan Member


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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 11:11am | IP Logged
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i got mixed views on the CD thing, is anyone even sure if the thing works? lol
anyways, i was going to vote have it compulsary but then i read Demons post, and am not sure but theres nothing more annoying then having to come off a server becuase it you aint got CD running, also there are always plenty of admins around to sort out any agro if cheaters do join the server
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Kappy Guest

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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 11:57am | IP Logged
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tbh id prefer to scrap CD all together and use VAC!
Y cant we have an option to use VAC on the server?
I get really annoyyed when when i see regualrs to our server not using C-D when we know they have it.
I also see so many blatant cheats on our server, let me explain a little about C-D... when C-D is on the server this means there is no other cheat protection program running which means any player who is not using C-D can use any cheat under the sun from as early on as OGC version1.
so id prefer to use VAC or have CD required because the reason stated above...
btw i seem to spend more of my time kicking cheats, TK'rs and No C-D players than i do actualy playing the game these days..
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 4:04pm | IP Logged
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This may be a good idea... we should check 1st tho as to how well VAC is workin these days cos b4 we got rid of it it was sh*t...
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InSuR Senior Community Member


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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 4:49pm | IP Logged
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i say cheating death required as a number of tiems i wanted to conenct with CD on but havent been able to due to full server.
having noticed alot of ppl on it with [NO-CD] meaning if they are prepared to use server y not put CD it aint dififcult
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Kappy Guest

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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 5:04pm | IP Logged
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another reason y not to use CD is that our server always seems to be running an out of date CD
for example the server has been running 3.1 when version 3.2 has been out for several days
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ninjaofwarfare Imba Community Member


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Posted: 22 June 2003 at 6:52pm | IP Logged
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& 2 update u need to reboot server
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 2:20am | IP Logged
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thats also true... C-D is updated every 2 mins... its very annoying...
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Sirwomble Site Admin

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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 7:54am | IP Logged
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surely some protection is better than noe ? and we have such a vast turn over of public types wots wrong with losing a few lazy f**kwits who cant be bothered to either dl or use a itzzy bitzzy lil cd prog, it makes me suspicious so often i see people will try and squirm out of getting cd what are they trying to hide ? if theres a better programme out there then why aint we using it and if we get sommat better then make that compulsory !! lets stop some if not all of these haxing mofo's and all u 56kers get your backsides into gear and join the 21st century lamoids, thats upset loads of people muhaaaaa. seriously tho we need to sort the men out from the boys and you some protectection Demon tell them exactly how many hits weve had rescently plz , so we lose the odd lazy ass noob, biggus dealius, i say and thrice again oooer noo missus in a frankie howard stylee.. l8tr geekoids.......
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MrFist Clan Member


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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 8:00am | IP Logged
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lol pld Womb and dont use vac, im banned from it for some reason and no it wasnt cheating!! jus like happened
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 1:42pm | IP Logged
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fist - why dont you go speak 2 valve then you nub! Theres instructions on the forums of www.counter-strike.net
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ajcrossy Senior Community Member


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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 3:48pm | IP Logged
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thers not much point to having cd on a server if it not run required and if you worryed no new players will come then why if they to lazy to get cd or they prob hack is why they dont want to play on a cd server i say server really sould be made to put an anti cheet on or the server is closed hl gard or cd any one but it sould be a server must :))
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Kappy Guest

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Posted: 23 June 2003 at 4:05pm | IP Logged
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i hope this poll is enforced 81% of use want CD required..
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