gun laws suck ass , the people that you have to worry about allready have access to black market weapons and the law abiding citizens with half a brain either wouldnt want 1 or if they had 1 would only use it if threatened by some burgler, and they all need to die anyhu. Im all in favour of being able to arm yourself , which i do legaly now anyhu .

I say if some fcuker tries to nick your "stuff" then i say youve every right to blow the fecker away he shouldnt be there in the first place. Its a fact that in Texas they have one of the lowest burgalry rates anywere and most of the people that are blowing each other away are gang members, and i say thats a good thing .

yeah but thats the ttitude they have in the US and they have 10,000 gun related deaths a year compare dto about 70 in the UK...

Amreica is 250million which is only 5 times bigger than us - 70 x 5 <> 10,000!

Ya a see your point but as i said most of the 10 k deaths are crime/gang related and im not bothered if they blow each other away . The gun crimes are such over hear that atm its only the criminal element with access to guns , so they roam freely about and we sit around not being able to defend ourselves if we had to . At the end of the day its not guns that kill people its people that kill people and or Wappers.

As things stand if im right , things will get worse year by year and itll be only be a matter of time and we will have to arm ourselves to survive. Or at the very least the police will have to be armed wether they like it or not . Sadly its a sign of the times.

personally would never have a gun in the house, especilly if i had children, how many times do you hear of little moof who found his daddys gun and thought it woudl be cool to shoot his best mate,

also i think it escalates the problem, with more people going well if they have got a gun then so am i, i am happier knowing that most people dont have and dont want a firearm, more would find thier way into the hands of people who shouldnt have them as there would proabably be robberies by local criminals who want to steal a gun so they can have one,

no too many risks in my opinion for having guns, no one should have them (except the police/army) and the world would be a safer place!

Sirwomble wrote: At the end of the day its not guns that kill people its people that kill people and or Wappers.

Aye, so therefore the less people who have guns, the less people who can kill people, and the less people who can/will be killed... logical, init!

problem is, by law, and i could be wrong, you have to keep it secure in the box, also unarmed, so in the event you wake up and there is a burglar in your room, you have to get the key unlock the cabinet and then arm the gun, by which time th mofo could have done anything anyway,

look at it this way, the less guns is better, and statistics can prove that, i know that if there were more guns about there would be more access to people who want them, but who should never have one, do you want more crazy people running down the highstreet shooting people?  and not everyone in this world is as sensible as you, most would stick it in thier bedside cabinet and either have it stolen or shoot a fmaily member,