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greg Honourary Member

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 12:37pm | IP Logged
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please help me!
please read this one then advise me.
ive got my work off the broken drive! yey. well i cant open it as dont have office installed but i think its ok.
so now I want to try and wipe windows then reinstall it, but leave everything on.
im booted up from the 2nd drive, so can i just delete windows directory from the 1st drive then boot up with windows disk and reinstall it?
i tried reinstalling over the old installation but it tellls me its corrupt and wont continue. i dont want to format the 1st drive as its full of stuff id really quite like to keep (games and 45gb music).
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 5:17pm | IP Logged
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ok,
run a "chkdsk /f driveletter:" eg "chkdsk /f d:" at a cmd prompt to do a checkdisk and try to fix it.
You cant install windows over the old drive cos itll prob need a format, heres my suggestion but itll take a bit of time and make sure you have done a chkdsk 1st before you do it.
1. Move 30-35gb of your data from corrupt disk to the spare (leaving that amount of free space on the broken one). 2. The use Partition Magic to reduce the size of the existing partition by 30gb and create a new partition in the empty space (still on the 120gb). 3. Move the data from the 40gb to the new partition. 4. Repeat 1-3 until you have all of your data stored in a seperate partition on the 120gb and leave yourself say 40GB at the start of the drive (to install windoze and your games on). 5. Format and reinstall windows on the 1st partition on your 120gb.
Assuming your drive just had a small glitch then all should work ok. If your drive does the same thing again in the next few months then i would backup your data and return the drive to the manufacturer for a replacement (ive had this problem and lost gigs of data when it failed each time )
If you have any problems/questoins then install vent again and speak to me or phone me (pm me for number).
Edited by Demonboy on 14 April 2005 at 5:18pm
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greg Honourary Member

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 5:34pm | IP Logged
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i tried chkdsk which just said the drive was corrupt and it couldnt continue or something.
i then booted up windows on the second drive and from the windows cd I installed onto the first drive which deleted the old installation as it went.
finally got it booted up from the first drive and it seems ok.
i obviously really could do with formatting this first drive but at the moment i havent the time for partioning etc. i might purchase a new hard drive when i get my loan (needed some more space anyway) then go for a clean install on that and wipe this one and see how it goes.
how long will the warranty be if this drive is fubar? i bought it from ccl maybe about year and a half ago?
oh and why isnt my comma key working. ive checked ive got uk keyboard setup not us.
thanks anyway ill see how this goes.
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 5:40pm | IP Logged
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usually warrenty is about 2-3 yrs but you should just get the serial number from your drive and go to your manufacturers webby...
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greg Honourary Member

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 5:46pm | IP Logged
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ok tis a ibm deskstar i think.
any ideas on my comma key though?
its a pain in the arse restart hasnt solved it.
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Harv Honourary Member

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 6:58pm | IP Logged
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D's half right about the HDD.
It is usually (1) year for the warranty, and you are better off taking it back to the re-seller since it saves you p&p.
Take in mind though that HDD manufacturers are not obliged to recover lost data stored on thier HDD's.
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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| Posted: 14 April 2005 at 7:25pm | IP Logged
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depends on the drive and the manufacturer. All seagate HDDs have a 3 yr warranty - there was a period where all manufacturers dropped to doing 1 yr but then theyve started going back the other way now...
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ChiefPFF Honourary Member

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 1:08am | IP Logged
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Ok, if youve still not got it sorted.. What does it sound like? Is it really grindy? Well either way if you cant read it from you current working windows then try the following.. and before i start, this isnt a piss take.. really.
1. Whip the drive out of your machine
2. Hold firmly in left hand
3. With open palm, thump it (not too hard!) with the ball of your right hand (for most drives aim to the bottom right quarter)
4. Give it another one!
5. Dont bother putting drive back in case - but plug in cables
6. Put drive down upside-down (maybe prop it up on some books or something)
7. Boot up and see what happens
If it still cant read it, then try it sitting another way up.
And seriously I'm not taking the piss - I've done this rakes of times before and had good success rates (providing its the read/write heads that are knacked).
gl & hf!
oh and btw this isnt a fix - its just so you can get your data off
Edited by ChiefPFF on 15 April 2005 at 1:10am
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TheGouldFish Honourary Member

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 7:34am | IP Logged
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right (second time), I beleive you can boot your computer with the possabliy f**ked drive in it. If so get a pogram called getDataBack from : www.runtime.com
and try using it to get you data back.
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Harv Honourary Member

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 7:39am | IP Logged
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ChiefPFF wrote:
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If on your hands is to difficult, try it on your head.
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greg Honourary Member

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 9:12am | IP Logged
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ok thanks for the help i spent the whole of yesterday f**king about with it.
im now at the point where im back to where i started before this happened but with a fresh installation of windows (but havent formatted).
ive got my work and can get everything else so it seems ok at the moment. but windows is still reporting corrupt files occasionally and azureus wont work anymore as it reports 'write fails flush fails' errors. which i googled and apparently can happen when there are minor errors with the disk writing the data and azureus is good and picks up on it and stops the torrent.
but abc works so ill use that for now.
ive not really the time to sort out getting it formatted
when i get my loan ill either get a new hard drive or a dvd-rw drive then format it and cross fingers it'll be ok
cheers
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|SFH|gama_k Site Admin

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 10:19am | IP Logged
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last resort data recovery from a drive wrap it in plastic and stick it in the fridge for 30 mins put it back in your pc and it may give you 20 - 30 mins to get the data off before the drive is dead. Only use this method when nothing else works you need the data and the drive is dead or going to be binned.
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 2:49pm | IP Logged
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eh gama - what exactly does that do to it?!
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greg Honourary Member

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 3:23pm | IP Logged
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makes it cold, stupid.
don't they have fridges in slough 
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|SFH|gama_k Site Admin

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 4:01pm | IP Logged
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when hard drive failure is due to the read-write heads no longer functioning because they are too far or too close to the platters. If you stick the hard drive in the freezer and leave it in there long enough for it to become pretty cold the molecules in the metal will contract and may allow the read-write heads to read data again for a short period of time (until the drive returns to room temperature and begins to expand again to a non-operating state). hence the 20 - 30 mins to get the data off the drive.
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Nhumrod Site Admin

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| Posted: 15 April 2005 at 8:39pm | IP Logged
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cool - ill remember that... 
greg - bite my bum... 
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