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Posted: 15 December 2004 at 10:44am | IP Logged  

Ok i just bought a new heatsink, the first stage in silencing my pc up( i know the power pack would be the most preferential one first but i aint got the cash yet).

Now i've orded some of that gel stuff(clue of how much i know) aswell so i should be all set but need to know a few things.

What can i use to clean my chip?

Is it a case of putin an even thin layer of the gel on the chip then putting the heatsink on and screwing in?

any help or advice on putting new ones in would be appriciated as i don't wana bugger my comp up.

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Posted: 15 December 2004 at 3:07pm | IP Logged  

Remove as much of the existing thermal gel as possible. Use a train ticket to scrape as much off as you can, but be careful not to scratch the top of the cpu.
Then use a lint free cloth (ie a CLEAN!!! duster) to wipe off the remains.
Then use another train card to spread a thin layer of the new gel evenly over the chip.
Not too much, not too little. Only experience can tell you what is too much or too little. Just image half-way between the amount of marg and the amount of jam you put on toast i guess.
Make sure there is no part of the CPU showing.
Screw the heatsink on.

I don't usually bother with the next bit, but if you want to be absolutely sure that you have put it on properly, unscrew the heatsink and look at the bottom.
If the gel still covers the entire of the cpu without showing gaps, then you have spread it evenly, and you have put enough on.

Case closed.

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Posted: 15 December 2004 at 4:21pm | IP Logged  

cheers mate, do i need to use any fluid on it to clean it atall or will scraping it carefully do the trick?

Would a clean credit card do the job for scraping??

should i put the gel on a clean surface then pick a bit up with  the card or go straight onto the cpu?

I heard something about turning it round a bit to rub it round, is that worth it or pointles?

 

Im just really cautious because i know if i get it wrong the cpu goes melty.

 

Thanks again for your help, any questions i have il post em up here cause you seem to know what your on about from experience not manuals.

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Posted: 15 December 2004 at 5:38pm | IP Logged  

You don't need to use fluid, taking the majority off is enough.

A clean credit card would be fine, but given it is harder than a train ticket, you need to make extra care not to scratch the CPU.

Put the gel straight on to the CPU

Pointless to 'rub it round' don't know where you heard that or why.

CPU won't go melty mate, you would have to delibrately miss a spot on the CPU, and not put the heatsink on properly for the CPU to melt. Besides - if you have an intel P4 proc, it will shut down before it melts anyway.

The advantage of being sure you have put the gel on right is the difference between the idle temp of the CPU being at 45 rather than 60, thats all.
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most AMD boards will also shut down by defult at something like 75 degrees now too, bearing the mind the CPUs go to 90 degrees befor the burn out 99% it works and saves your CPU. You'll also likely get an alarm from the motherboard speaker as well befor this to warn you

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Posted: 16 December 2004 at 10:47am | IP Logged  

ok lads good stuff cheers!

Will get to work on it when i get the heat sink here.

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Posted: 16 December 2004 at 3:23pm | IP Logged  

make sure you check you bios settings, because not all boards have "turn off if heat gets too high" setting on by default. I also surgest you DL a program (you might have got one on your mother board cd) that tells you the temp of your processor and system in windows.

and good luck with putting the heatskin on if you've never had to do any CPU work, the old screw driver into the motherboard worry is always there :)

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Posted: 16 December 2004 at 3:36pm | IP Logged  

couldn't find anything in the bios with an overheat turn off. I'll just assume its on! could you reccomend any programs for monitering temps?

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find out who make the motherboard and go to their site, they should have a utility to download there.

like gouldy mentioned, be careful if prising heatsink clips with a screwdriver, one slip could be quite nasty!

but its not really that hard.

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Posted: 16 December 2004 at 4:58pm | IP Logged  

Mbm5 is what you need for the job. Great little progmram , easy to set up so you'll be fine. Also to make sure too check there motherboard list for compatability here.

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if I remember rightly the name of one I found was called "hardware monitor"
or hmonitor.

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Posted: 17 December 2004 at 8:03am | IP Logged  

got that one trep suggested as i couldn't find one on the ASRock website.

According to this my CPU is 127c which aint good, and i got a hdd temp thing and there running at 40 and 65 which also aint good....i think my comps melting:S

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turn it off!!

my athlon 1.33ghz has idled at about 90 before for a while when my fan was almost kaput (now 50C with new fan) but if 127 C is right then you need to sort that out. you did plug the power for the fan in didnt you

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Posted: 17 December 2004 at 8:13am | IP Logged  

also try touching the heat sink. if it feels too hot to touch then you have a problem with the heatsink/fan. if it just feels warm/hot then it is a problem with the contact between the chip and heatsink - or there is no problem at all and the motherboard is reporting wrong temp. when you boot it up and go into the bios, does it tell you the cpu temperature in there? if so, let it  run for a bit just in the bios and see what the temp is.



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Posted: 17 December 2004 at 8:48am | IP Logged  

127c? sure that isnt fahrenheit or something... hmmm... 127c really isnt good. As greg says check in the bios. Probably under computer health or something like that.

When touching the heatsink be sure to get rid of static by touching the case first or something that will discharge any charge you might have on you.

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heh this is with the old heatsink, new 1 hasnt been fitted yet!

its just that program(even though it was deffo in celcius) as in the bios says its sitting at 51 and i can touch the heatsink without getting 3rd degree burns. My new heatsink doesn't arrive till the 23rd as they dont get em in stock till the 21st.

 

Another problem i may aswell ask here - on a similar subject. My second HDD(not main one) is sitting at around 60 degrees C out of the case. The only thing i can think of doing for keeping it cool is once it goes back in slap a fan straight infront of it to suck cool air over it, and maybe site a few old heatsinks on it to draw heat out. I know this temperature is quite dangerous to run it and and the harddrive keeps on just disapearing from windows once a week or so.  What ya's think(assuming it isnt damaged beyond repair...)

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Posted: 18 December 2004 at 10:06am | IP Logged  

your using your new processor with your old heatsink?!

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new processor? i'm not changing my processor...

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Posted: 18 December 2004 at 5:34pm | IP Logged  

fair enough, not to self: read post before posting...

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Hey Cal.

I had exactly the same problem with my mobo. It said the processor was 120 ish. You don't happen to have a MSI k8t neo do you? I found that upgrading the bios made everything all right. It was readin the wrong sensor or was reading the right sensor in the wrong way.



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