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Right... here I go,
I've been working with Sketchup for quite a while now... making concepts of mostly pc cases.. this one is the first ever design that I made using Sketchup and I can't seem to get it out of my head, so now... I've basically arrived at the point where I'm actually happy enough with it to make a real world model and/or actually build this thing.
But then again.... Aluminium is quite expensive (I thought about going for wood but... it's just not going to work), I wouldn't want to build it if it's lame or not good.
Sooo.. in short.. I designed something, I don't know if I should build it, I'll show you guys where I'm at now and would like to see what you think about it.
A "Quick" Render:
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Back:
Front without detachable pieces:
This closed outer case would be for transporting purposes, or just if you want to stash it into a corner where nobody would see it.
Front closed: (don't mind the pc cooler sticking out, just a minor issue)
EDIT: Still not sure about the actual case, I feel like it doesn't fit the rest.
Back closed:
So... tell me what you think, suggestions are appreciated 
Edited by Bartaggio on 14 July 2010 at 1:08am
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Wow looks cool a couple of questions is that an air vent on the side how do the hard drives attach
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Cock with a soc wrote:
| Wow looks cool a couple of questions is that an air vent on the side how do the hard drives attach |
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Air vents on the side as in on the closed case? so far I've just added windows/acrylic shapes, but will make some air vents out of mesh and put it in there too, or stamp out some holes to use as vents.
The hard drives will attach to the case itself by screws, since it will have a side panel to access to inside it'll be possible to screw them to it.
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very cool!
only issue might be cables would look unsightly. Can you route them through some covers of some kind?
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saw a case which was the same way but without the cover over it, which was a different look to a pc,
i cant quite work out how your mounting the hard drives, but you may want to think about caddys for them, would be better on sound at least,
one other comment about thermals, cant see your infeed to the case and a partition maybe for the psu? no fan for cpu either?
however i do like the look of it
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Demonboy wrote:
very cool!
only issue might be cables would look unsightly. Can you route them through some covers of some kind? |
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The wires will most likely be sleeved and fed through the case. Won't make it all go away, but it'll help.
Richie wrote:
saw a case which was the same way but without the cover over it, which was a different look to a pc,
i cant quite work out how your mounting the hard drives, but you may want to think about caddys for them, would be better on sound at least,
one other comment about thermals, cant see your infeed to the case and a partition maybe for the psu? no fan for cpu either?
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You've probably seen Level 10 by Thermaltake, this design is based on that design.
About the hard drive mounting:
They would be attached like so, with rubber gummlets in between to reduce vibration noises. Doesn't look really stable, but 2 screws should hold it up, if it doesn't... I'll just make a bay.
Infeed to the case? not sure what you mean by that, but if you're talking about intake fans, etc. the outer case is far from done, it's only a quick sketch without any fans/vents, as I'm not sure wheter I like this shape/styling.
Partition for the PSU, hmm... so far what I've drawn up seemed to be the best placement for it.
There's no CPU fan attached to the heatsink since that's not really important for now, it's only a digital pc for now 
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cant you mount the hdds so they are vertical, instead of horizontal? just thinking that if they are vertical, the screws would hold them in place, and there wouldnt be a need for bays, but as they are.. you are most likely gonna break the screws.
the psu will have a fan built into the bottom, right?
looking at your placement... that's gonna be blowing hot air out, and back over the psu.
cant you side mount the psu, so the fan blows out, then integrate the power lead into the botton of the case? just a thought :]
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What i was thinking was with the case closed it doesnt look like youve got anywhere for air to come in to the case
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looks very cool 
and i know nothing of pc building and design, but my physics tells me that, as Lafey said, those screw probably wont hold ur hdd. Ud want to support the outer edges of those things so they dont start bending downwards. I'd solve it like this:
With alluminium braces, that way ull support ur hdds enough so they wont fall and keep the impact on ur current design minimal, since ud only rlly notice the extra screws. But then again i know absolutly nothing of pc design
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Lafey wrote:
cant you mount the hdds so they are vertical, instead of horizontal? just thinking that if they are vertical, the screws would hold them in place, and there wouldnt be a need for bays, but as they are.. you are most likely gonna break the screws.
the psu will have a fan built into the bottom, right?
looking at your placement... that's gonna be blowing hot air out, and back over the psu.
cant you side mount the psu, so the fan blows out, then integrate the power lead into the botton of the case? just a thought :] |
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I just checked using an old HDD and some screws/piece of metal. The HDD actually only needs 1 screw to keep it up, so having 2 screws in there, or maybe I'll even use all 3 screw holes, should be more the sufficient.
I don't really want to mount them vertically since that sort of ruins what the case is about, sleek and spacious....  ... or something similar
About the PSU, as shown on the back side pics, the PSU has a rear fan, so hot air would just get pushed out. Side mounting could be done... but then I'd have to do something funny with the on/off switch and the power plug, which would involve a lot more work and possibly more cables shown.
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Ah yes, got it right then.  As I said before the outer case is not done yet
yuriclaes wrote:
looks very cool
and i know nothing of pc building and design, but my physics tells me that, as Lafey said, those screw probably wont hold ur hdd. Ud want to support the outer edges of those things so they dont start bending downwards. I'd solve it like this:
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With alluminium braces, that way ull support ur hdds enough so they wont fall and keep the impact on ur current design minimal, since ud only rlly notice the extra screws. But then again i know absolutly nothing of pc design |
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As I said to Lafey, 2 or 3 screws should really be sufficient. Also, not to flame you or something, but daamn that's a big brace for a few HDDs. 
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overdimensioning things never hurts :p
and like i said, i know nothing about this.
But i need to keep my sketch-up skills up to date or ill be useless after the holidays when school starts
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Quick update:
Decided to add some vents and fans, just not sure about where to put the intake fan... I want to keep the front clean
Also, this is for you Demon, this is what I've planned so far, obviously the "cases" of the wires can be smaller but I just took this size because it saves me alot of work. I don't really like the look of it now, but I could also sleeve them in a similar way.
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i was referring to air intake earlier, just to clarify, one option i have seen on another case recently was to mount the air intakes at the bottom of the pc, which would make it slightly raised up, the theory was that vertical cooling (heat rising) and coupled with vent on the top of the pc would in theory be a more natural way of cooling than the current horizontal, countering that though would mean that you would need the right surface for your pc to stand on, alternatly you couls have a false base plate foe the fans to live in with their own intakesit would possibly benefit your sleek design if you could keep it off the front of the case,
another consideration, balance , i know the design basically works on the weight being on the left and low down (with psu) but i note you do not have a lip the other side of the case to counter any movement, with all the weight on one support i am not sure if there would be an issue with this, i did check the level 10 and that does have the upporting lip, your case mounting would sitll be able to sit over the top of this
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Richie wrote:
i was referring to air intake earlier, just to clarify, one option i have seen on another case recently was to mount the air intakes at the bottom of the pc, which would make it slightly raised up, the theory was that vertical cooling (heat rising) and coupled with vent on the top of the pc would in theory be a more natural way of cooling than the current horizontal, countering that though would mean that you would need the right surface for your pc to stand on, alternatly you couls have a false base plate foe the fans to live in with their own intakesit would possibly benefit your sleek design if you could keep it off the front of the case,
another consideration, balance , i know the design basically works on the weight being on the left and low down (with psu) but i note you do not have a lip the other side of the case to counter any movement, with all the weight on one support i am not sure if there would be an issue with this, i did check the level 10 and that does have the upporting lip, your case mounting would sitll be able to sit over the top of this |
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Vertical cooling would be a possiblity, I'll look into it, even though I'm unsure if I want a massive hole in the bottom of the case which you can see if you have it opened up.
As for side intakes for the front fan, I've though about that but I think cooling will be very limited as it has to pull cold air from the sides.
About balance, it actually does have a lip on the other side, it is detachable which is why it's not on every pic. (Won't need to lip if it's closed up as the weight of the case would keep it stable enough, and also all the components would be inside the actual case.
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ah, missed the lip in the picture i was looking at,
so when you going to be in a position to get started :)
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Richie wrote:
ah, missed the lip in the picture i was looking at,
so when you going to be in a position to get started :) |
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Errr.. good question. 
Rendering can be so much fun
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dont bother with a side vent... if you have good airflow, thru the top and bottom, a side vent would just screw it up. all about the flow, not about how many holes it has.
how about a simple L bracket for under the hdds? lol... fixating on the hdds now :D
and i dont think you should use aluminum for the case...
get your hands on some heat treated titanium... that'd look bad ass!
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Lafey wrote:
dont bother with a side vent... if you have good airflow, thru the top and bottom, a side vent would just screw it up. all about the flow, not about how many holes it has.
how about a simple L bracket for under the hdds? lol... fixating on the hdds now :D
and i dont think you should use aluminum for the case...
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The point is that I'm not sure if I want a bottom and top fan.
You just won't take no for an answer eh? Yea I might put a simple bracket underneath it if I find out they don't hold, but if they do without it, I'm not making brackets ;)
Heat treated Titanium?? Sure, I'll just use that for the base, pure gold trimming and a silver base 
On second though... I think I'll stick to aluminium, or somehow I totally forgot to put that in here, steel.
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If you put it at the bottom the air is just going to get dragged back out by the psu best put it at the top then its a reverse of the standard atx design
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yeah, i've got 14 kilo, of heat treated titanium i am willing to sell :p
if you dont want fans holes... is there an alternative? like liquid cooling?
been doing some tests for you, with an old hdd (heaviest i could find) and an old case... the screws should hold.
spent an hour hitting the case, the screws held, and i got a major headache.
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