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hamble Honourary Member

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| Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:13pm | IP Logged
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This isn't so much funky linkage as interesting linkage... A company in Ireland is claiming they can create almost limitless, clean free energy with magentics and are challenging the scientific community to test it. Guardian story: Changing the World
And their company website, which has a forum full of people saying "it's not possible... blah blah blah": Steorn
Now I don't know if their claim is legitimate, but as they are laying the gauntlet down to scientists and have already spent millions of pounds on their research, I think it deserves a lot more attention than the instant dismissal "Hoax, PR stunt, defyies the laws of physics so not possible" bollocks that most people knee-jerk react with.
What is definately true, and this is not a conspiricy theory as far as I'm concerned, is that so many companies and individuals have a vested interest in not allowing free energy to ever become available, that bringing knowledge like this to the market is a huge uphill struggle and quite a scary business, considering the kind of pressure and opposition they are going to come up against.
If you stop and think about the implications of free, clean energy for the whole world for a minute, you'll very quickly realise that such a thing would be considered a fundamental threat to the 'powers' of the world. Energy IS power. Limitless available energy would require a complete re-think in the way the world is run economically, politically and literally - it would be a huge change in the way the world works - and those in power never want that change.
With great power comes great responsibility - the best thing Steorn could do is to make all of their research and techniques available to the public domain, completely non-commercial and non-profit. Then it might have a change of taking off.
There, that's my thought for the day!
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| Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:40pm | IP Logged
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Nice i also agree. Free limitless power would change the world , hopefully for the better. All the power companies and such that would lose out , they will try to take them down, as they are threatend.
good luck to them, hope they suceed. It would get rid of electricity bills !! :)
they need to make it public, copyright the idea and make it completely non-profit.
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Dud.TraP Imba Community Member

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| Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:44pm | IP Logged
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Very intersting, im reading a book called "time" by stephen baxter at the moment, and it has some similarities to that project. I think it sould all be made public to stop there being one dominant "owner" of free energy.
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TheGouldFish Honourary Member

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| Posted: 25 August 2006 at 12:54pm | IP Logged
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Interesting, my first reaction is that you can't get free engery. But it might be possable they are getting Energy from a place they are not looking (They are using magnets which lose there power with use and time so I'm guessing alot of there free power is coming from there).
There are also theorys (based on string thoery) that there are 7 (or poss 14) other dimentions and this may be taking power from there.
The Question is how much power does the thing generate, can a resonable sized machine run a whole house? or is it going to take a number of them?
If so the electric compainies are most likey going to be the ones making them and then we will still pay for the electricty they are generating.
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| Posted: 25 August 2006 at 1:35pm | IP Logged
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TheGouldFish wrote:
Interesting, my first reaction is that you can't get free engery. But it might be possable they are getting Energy from a place they are not looking (They are using magnets which lose there power with use and time so I'm guessing alot of there free power is coming from there).
There are also theorys (based on string thoery) that there are 7 (or poss 14) other dimentions and this may be taking power from there.
The Question is how much power does the thing generate, can a resonable sized machine run a whole house? or is it going to take a number of them?
If so the electric compainies are most likey going to be the ones making them and then we will still pay for the electricty they are generating. |
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I'd assume they would be using electro magnets, which require power...so maybe some of the excess power generated could be put back in to power them...and the size would probably be dependant on how much power you need - if you want to generate enough power for your house, you would need to put in x, and at 251% efficiency, you would get out 2.51x, which means you would need something capable of storing or converting that much power I guess.
I don't know, it would be amazing if this was true, and I do think that string theory is on to something - the fact that we have several physics models to describe our world that are not unified (which is why string theory is a unified model - because it applies to both large objects and small particles) does show that our understanding of what’s going on is limited...possibly even beyond our understanding (you cant teach physics to a dog, he is just not intelligent enough)...basically, I am open minded to the fact that all the great theories, including the theory of conservation could in fact be wrong, or not apply given some other set of rules - so why not, free clean limitless energy could be possible, or it could suck all the energy out from some other dimension, and some 5D aliens will get pissed!
I do agree that this would change the world, and even better, if they made it public knowledge so that Joe Blog could make one in his shed to power his house and car…tho like used chip fat powered diesel cars, they will probably be made illegal - health hazard (tax hazard)
Edited by Mojo Jojo on 25 August 2006 at 1:38pm
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TheGouldFish Honourary Member

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well string theroy links the Gravity with magents, or the Strong force with the weak force.
The odd thing is that GRavity is so much weaker when compaired to the other forces.
Dispite the plannet being so big, we can lift our arms and beat gravity and a small magnet and beat gravity as well.
So where is all the rest of the gravity energy going?
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